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US Yacht 25' - Are they as bad as they say?Hi, I'm getting ready to purchase a 25' US Yacht for $2500, but I recently read that they are built from the molds once used for Bayliner boats. Apparently Bayliner sold the design to Pearson, who built a few boats and then they sold it to US Yacht who used it for a few years in the early 80's. The boat I'm looking at seems pretty decent, and has everything I'm looking for (except headroom). It seems well built and solid, it has a split backstay, in mast halyards, in boom outhaul, cockpit forward traveler, Lewmar winches, an enclosed head, operable portholes, a decent sail inventory, etc. I don't plan on having a survey done, as I don't think it's worth paying 20% of the boats purchase price to have someone tell me what I already know. I've gone over every inch and I haven't found any issues. No water penetration, no loose hardware, no chain plate problems, (teak bulkheads), no soft spots, nothing really stands out. All in all it appears to be a decent little boat, which makes me wonder why everyone I've talked to says they are pieces of junk. Has anyone owned or been intimate with one of these? This picture is not the actually boat, but exactly like it. US 25 THAT pic is not a pic of a typicaly Bayliner that most of us know about. In reality, that boat looks like a decent designed and sailable boat. The bayliners that I know about in that range would have a deck another 1-2' higher and another row of windows. I also do not recall any problems with some of the US Yacht boats built. Yes a spin off of Bayliner, that did go BK in the 80's, but a lot of BB's did that do to the recession at the time, including Cal, O'Day, Islander, Erickson etc that built nice boats. Marty Some owner reviews here: http://www.sailboatowners.com/reviews/revread.tpl?fno=499.93&id=11837863117890830 Sounds like it is not put together any better than the Bayliner though it looks better. Excellent, thanks camaraderie, that was some good info. Now I don't know what to do... I sailed on one of these years ago - very small cockpit since they try to cram some accomodation into a smallish hull. Decent performance for a small boat, though. It is actually a Gary Mull design - which is a good thing - but of concern, for example, was that fact that the main bulkhead was not tabbed into the hull. I can recall seeing light between the hull liner and the bulkhead edge. The US 22 and 25 were Mull, the Buccaneer 295/US30 and 33 were Doug Peterson designs - decent pedigrees but reputedly poor execution. But at least from a design point of view they were leaps ahead of the infamous Buccaneers that most associate with the name (and Bayliner). Has anyone owned or been intimate with one of these? Click to expand... Not a Bayliner Buccaneer Have you ever heard of a US Yacht with blisters? I know of expensive boats 2-3 years old with them. That says alot about these 25+ year old boats! They aren 't tanks like the Buccs, but they aren't all that sluggish either... Brian US30 Wu-Wei What 2-3 year old boats have you seen with blisters? Brand names please!! us 25 I just recently bought a US 25 and I love it! The cockpit is a bit cramped and the tiller seems a little long, and getting to the outboard can be an adventure but over all I think she is a fine craft and I look forward to many happy years at the helm! How ever I have found it very difficult to locate much info on this model....any help would be appreciated! The issue is what you cant SEE Which would be all the wood stringers that have a high ROT rate i am sure sailnet member US27inKS can give you expert advise on were to check as he did a COMPLETE rebuild of a 27' When are manufacturers going to start using trex decking in place of wood? The orginal Bayliner 25 was a boat to stay away from. It was designed with to little of a sail area, too much freeboard with little if any input from a sailing aspect of boating being developed by the powerboat manufacturer. The US 25 however is quite different. I owned one and outsailed alot of 25ft buidlt by others and gave more room than most. The teck sole was a nice added. I wished I had gone with the US29, since the head room was missing. The quality was good. Hope you are enjoying I have a US25 and it's great. There are quite a few threads on this forum with both sides speaking out, but I say to make sure to listen to those that own them and sail them regularly. Very well balanced boat with a good amount of space inside and out for it's size. As for the tiller issue, I replaced my wine with a shorter one made out of hazelnut wood. I thought it was too long too. Agreed on the headroom, just a few more inches in height would be nice. GraemeInCanada said: I have a US25 and it's great. There are quite a few threads on this forum with both sides speaking out, but I say to make sure to listen to those that own them and sail them regularly. Very well balanced boat with a good amount of space inside and out for it's size. As for the tiller issue, I replaced my wine with a shorter one made out of hazelnut wood. I thought it was too long too. Agreed on the headroom, just a few more inches in height would be nice. Click to expand... theres a 78 bucanneer 25ft asking 4 grand near where i live. Just FYI, i live in montreal but i'm currently visting my parents in Alabama. heres the link: BUCCANEER - Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu Voiliers à vendre - Kijiji Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu What do you think about this one? No kidding, but he is leaving for a month.:laugher The US Yachts were actually decent built boats. They weren't fast, but they were decent cruisers. Things to look for are bulkheads being rotted, as well as the teak/holly sole will be trashed. The windows leaked (like everything 30+ years old). They do sail quite well, and the fin keel model will hold up in a blow like nobody's business. They aren't pointing machines, but who cares its a $2500 sailboat. If the bulkheads are good, the chainplates are good, standing rigging is passable. Mast straight and all hardware still present... You're 99% there. Other thing to check is the rudder post, these wobble (not a big deal), but you'll have to shim it to keep it from dropping the rudder. Not unusual to hear of the rudders falling out, again, take some precautions and you'll be fine. My father bought a brand new US 27 in 1981 (I was his crew). It was a HELLUVA boat. We sailed it on Lake Norman, NC for 4 years, then moved it to NJ and sailed it on Barnegat. We actually raced it a lot, lost lots... We only ever placed when the winds were 30+ sustained, and a water spout formed on the lake. As for the US 25? My brother owned one for 10+ years (just sold it about 4 years ago)... Windows leaked like a strainer. Sailed it like mad though. They go over quick, then harden up nicely about 20 degrees. Trick to get them moving is a decent sized genoa. On the 27 we had a 170 we used up until the winds his 20+, on the 25 my brother never had more than a 110, and because of it, spent many a hot day with light winds going very slow. These are masthead rigs with blade mains, again headsail is the key. If you want any more information feel free to PM me. Hilarious... I can see why this guy has been banned from other forums, his internet cojones' keep getting in the way. Did he say when that month starts? Attitude is everything........well, at least for some folks. Upkeep is the deal (the windows leak, like in my Capri 25, and my Capri 22, at 30+ yeras the seals/windows crack and leak, duh)...as for kenneth... well, I think he stands out as a colossal waste of electrons, other than that... who cares? The OP asked a question are they horribly built as has been said. They aren't any worse than, a Catalina, or a Hunter, or a MacGregor, evidence is they are still being sailed 30 years later, and they were a production boat. They have their issues, as they all do. My personal experience with the 27, and the 25 is they are tough boats, sail well, but aren't going to set the water on fire with speed. With that they are big for their size (cruiser class). The US Yacht brand is slightly different than the Buccaneer or Bayliner models, they are arguably lighter, and less ugly, and generally better laid out. SHNOOL said: Upkeep is the deal (the windows leak, like in my Capri 25, and my Capri 22, at 30+ yeras the seals/windows crack and leak, duh)...as for kenneth... well, I think he stands out as a colossal waste of electrons, other than that... who cares? The OP asked a question are they horribly built as has been said. They aren't any worse than, a Catalina, or a Hunter, or a MacGregor, evidence is they are still being sailed 30 years later, and they were a production boat. They have their issues, as they all do. My personal experience with the 27, and the 25 is they are tough boats, sail well, but aren't going to set the water on fire with speed. With that they are big for their size (cruiser class). The US Yacht brand is slightly different than the Buccaneer or Bayliner models, they are arguably lighter, and less ugly, and generally better laid out. Click to expand... Yes but when they were Us yacht the topsides and lines changed sugnificantly as I understand it they eventually became the Triton molds before they were (are) abandoned. Yep I understand the molds still exist. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Hi. I thought I have a US25, but now I think its a Buccaneer 255. Its a 1979 model and US yachts didnt take over til 1981. Plus it has a Volvo sail drive 50s 7.5 hp. None of the US yachts seem to have one, or Buccaneer 250s. I found the specs on the 255, but no pics. Its all is the same as the US 25 and Buc 250 except it weighs 4100 instead of 3750, and the spec said 3.5 ft draft but mine has a deep keel. I was wondering where the extra weight comes from? The sail drive weighs under 70 lbs. Does anyone know about these Buccaneer 255s. I dont think there are that many of them. I cant speak of the exact model but the Buccaneers as I recall had taller topsides than the US line. I'm betting this is where the weight difference is. Keep in mind those weights are "average" as with all boats and can vary as much as 20% within the production. The buccs and bayliners may have been the same hulls but the layouts and decks were different. As also said the topsides were taller on the older models. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Ok, i found a magazine ad for the 1979 buccaneer 250. Go figure? Its sister ship is the 255 and comes with an inboard. Extra weight must be from fuels tank, exhaust, blower, and stuff like that. The 250 weighs 3750, just like the us yachts version. If you got the optional galley, then the cabin is layed out like the Us 25. Mystery solved Looks like a nice boat I would go for it. Have you looked at any San Juans same year nice boat as well, Or a Captive 240 fast but tender and a nice interior as well. Top Contributors this Month- Search Please fill out this field.
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The hull for both the BUCCANEER 295 and US 30 are, in part, based on an earlier Peterson 1/2 ton design though Peterson had no role in the production of any of these subsequent boats nor were royalties paid. (The sailboat division of Bayliner took the practice of reusing the tooling from defunct builders to […]
LOA 29" 11" LWL 25" beam 10" 3" displacement 7000 pounds ballast 2850 sail area 381 sq. feet, headroom 6" 2" J 12" boom 9.17 so big headsail small main, big chute and pole, okay for a Wednesday night race boat and cruiser for two, but not up to the standards of a more moderate displacement boat as a heavy weather cruiser and they have some bad ...
US Yachts US 30 ... The US Yachts US 30 is an American sailboat that was designed by Doug Peterson and Daryl Watson and first built in 1979. [1] [2] The design is an unauthorized development of Peterson's International Offshore Rule Half Ton class Chaser 29 racer, using the same hull design, but with no royalties paid.
US 30 is a 29′ 11″ / 9.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Douglas Peterson/Daryl Watson and built by Bayliner (Buccaneer/US Yachts) between 1979 and 1983.
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The Us 30 has been built with more than one type of keel. One option is a finn keel. The finn keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel. The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.68 - 1.78 meter (5.51 - 5.81 ft) dependent on the ...
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Us 30 is about 159 kg/cm, alternatively 891 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 159 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 891 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
J/30 Used Boat Review. In the late seventies opportunity knocked at boat builders' doors. It was calling for an offshore one-design boat that would offer high performance at an affordable price. Most major manufacturers of the day heeded the call. C & C Yachts introduced the Mega 30. Tartan Marine offered the Tartan Ten.
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Punching the tide down the harbour was made easy by the new 20hp Yanmar 3YM, which gave us a comfortable 5 knots over the ground and 6 knots or more through the water. As we went, Paul explained that the boat was in heavy-displacement mode, carrying 200 litres of water and 90 litres of fuel ready for an imminent cruise to France.
J-30''s are easier to handle than many of the ''brute strength race boats'' that are out there and for casual racing you might get by with the two of you as long as you are willing to pick the right sail for the conditions meaning stepping down to a #2 or # 3 when things pick up. In many ways a Laser 28 would be a good boat in the light air ...
sail sfbay . Feb 21, 2013 4,638 Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA Jul 24, 2021 #3 Looks like a nice sailboat. Specs: Seafarer 30 - Wikipedia and SailboatData.com - SEAFARER 30 Sailboat Might read this thread: Seafarer 30 | SailNet Community
Under such conditions, good sail control hardware—vang, traveler, reefing, adjustable backstay, etc—is important. Under PHRF the Tartan 30 typically has a base rating of 170 to 180, rating faster in areas with heavier winds. In fact, in some quarters the Tartan 30 is regarded as the archetypal PHRF competitor.
Sail World - The world's largest sailing news network; sail and sailing, cruising, boating news ... The First 30 offers everything one just needs: a comfortable saloon with 1.85 m (6.0 ft) headroom, a proper, functional galley with gimballed stove and fridge, a marine head, above the standard sized front cabin and a decently sized aft cabin ...
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The first O'Day 30 we saw back in 1977 was named Moby Dick. Compared to most of the boats in our boatyard, she did look a lot like a great white whale: beamy white hull with high topsides, white deck, white cabin trunk, and not much exterior wood trim. But what really struck us about the boat was the amount of interior volume. The boat had as much interior space as most 34-footers built at ...
The Hunter 30. Designed by John Cherubini and built from 1974 to 1983, the Hunter 30 is a coastal cruiser that was designed to offer a lot of boat for little money. With a focus on streamlining construction to boost production volume, Hunter aimed to offer an affordable coastal racer-cruiser.
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I personally doubt that you will much enjoy sailing west to east in the Caribbean on a beamy, 30-ft boat built for the Newport to Catalina run across a 26 n.mi. channel. Boats sailing the Caribbean these days tend to be nearer 40 ft, often larger. The trip you are contemplating requires gear, even if "harbor hopping.".
May 24, 2004. 7,137. CC 30 South Florida. Oct 20, 2016. #2. O'Days have a good reputation in general as a quality production line boat. I personally like the concept of the short fixed keel/ centerboard combo. It allows for a boat to maintain stability and pointing ability with the benefits of a shallow draft.
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