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26-02-2024, 02:55  
Boat: FP Lavezzi 40
of 4. In fact there is hardly any cupboard in this . It's ok for one month holiday but not all year round.

I ordered a CM46 from in . Construction starting in May.
Here if you want to have a look :
26-02-2024, 07:22  
Boat: CM50 (launch 2025)
then but i want smaller and yes is 600k which fits a TS42 but not the bigger ones.
There is simply no performance boat new in this 42ft range.
26-02-2024, 08:01  
Boat: FP Lavezzi 40
ready to sail is 800K€.
Over 1M is full options (full carbon structure, carbon rotating and boom, carbon longeron and fore beam, , etc).

Your other option may be one of the Stealth line from Catamarans but I find them too light for my liking.
26-02-2024, 08:47  
Boat: Lagoon 380 S2
. Don't get into a position where you need a french lawyer.
26-02-2024, 09:07  
Boat: Boatless but working on it
when he was not using it. Is this right? It is not the robust kind of boat you would usually find in and I question anyone’s decision to put it in charter.
The boat was returned to from the with the owner on board and he did not notice a was missing? Once again very odd. They could have hit something, or something could have hit them(an Orca perhaps). Was that already delaminated before departing the and if so why was it not noticed? Ditto for any signs of the delaminating. Surely the underside was inspected by the owner or someone on board prior to leaving for the return to . Obviously the laying up of the was done incorrectly initially and one wonders if this would ever have been noticed if not for the missing keel. Other TS owners will be running to get surveyed!
It seems extremely unlikely that the boat would not be returned to him from MC and/or the liquidators repaired or not. He purchased the boat and despite returning it to them it would/should remain his property. What is the reason for them holding his boat?
Having the boat in charter also raises some doubts. It says that the boat was grounded “lightly”. What does that mean? Its unlikely that the charter clients were completely open about any incidents they may have had. Having worked for some time in the charter industry and having seen the resulting damage from charter accidents I would have to think that there could easily have been some unreported groundings and other unknown potentially damaging incidents.
There are a lot of cloudy areas in this scenario.
I imagine that the timing of GLY the yard is not coincidental and they most likely picked it up for a song. It is also very common for a company a liquidated entity to not take on any liability, particularly from a boat built 8 years previously, as in this case.
What about ? Surely if you a EUR500,00+ boat and put it in charter it must have had comprehensive ?
Maursdon Composites and the French liquidator have been despicable and they should be held liable to return this mans and more to compensate for the treatment he has received in the past 5-6 years. Surely those funds are there since GLY has purchased the entity? But there are a lot of grey areas and no-one will put up that they are not required to, particularly as these are no longer being built.
I fail to see how GLY can be held responsible in any way.
There are many more questions than answers here. As said, I feel for the owner but it also seems there is a lot more to this story. It would be good to hear from other TS and ORC owners.
26-02-2024, 09:25  
Boat: Beneteau 46
26-02-2024, 09:58  
Boat: Boatless but working on it
26-02-2024, 10:35  
Boat: Building a Max Cruise 44 hybrid electric cat
of 4. In fact there is hardly any cupboard in this boat. It's ok for one month holiday but not all year round.

I ordered a CM46 from in . Construction starting in May.
Here if you want to have a look :
26-02-2024, 10:50  
Boat: Building a Max Cruise 44 hybrid electric cat
Marsaudon built. I see zero chance of them getting involved besides offering guidance. Poor guy - Youtube Vlog -
26-02-2024, 11:25  
Boat: FP Lavezzi 40
. Don't get into a position where you need a french lawyer.
26-02-2024, 11:29  
Boat: FP Lavezzi 40
26-02-2024, 11:51  
Boat: Lagoon 380 S2
to do that who also has the knowledge and balls to kick big manufacturers in their butt (due to him Laggon must change over 100riggs now) if screwing up the built but missing sufficent funds to do such a built :-)
26-02-2024, 12:17  
Boat: CM50 (launch 2025)
26-02-2024, 12:19  
Boat: SAnta Cruz 27
26-02-2024, 13:16  
Boat: Beneteau 46
. What does a “light sanding” mean and how can they be sure thats all it was and that there were not other incidents?
Was the underside inspected regularly and specifically before the return to Europe? I always have a look around on a regular basis, particularly when in warm like the Caribbean and always before a long passage. Was the underside inspected prior to departing for the Caribbean?
It looks as though there were signs that the keel had been repaired after the initial . Where, when and by who?
There must be more to the liquidator not paying out the claim. They cannot just decide to not pay a legitimate claim.
Are there other TS/ORC claims like this?

As said, lots of unanswered questions.[/QUOTE]

Does your boat insurance cover you for manufacturing defects? Mine doesn’t and I can’t imagine that ever being the case, if the boat had sunk as a result of the failure perhaps that might be different. I understand that there are unanswered questions but they are mostly in your head. The surveyors opinion was that the keel did not separate because of a hard grounding. Their analysis was extensive and detailed. You can choose to believe them or not. As for the liquidator not paying, in liquidation proceedings deciding which creditors get paid when there is not enough money for all claims is at best a dark art. There does not need to be a reason the OP is not getting paid. He may just lack the proper connections or the right lawyer.
 
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The hull molds are in fact the property of Régis Guillemot, who is tempted to relaunch production of this compact, lightweight ocean-going cruiser at an affordable price, as a response to the problem of rising prices for our beloved multis... For their part (as this edition goes to press), the Grand Large Group hasn’t ruled out continuing production of this model. As a reminder, seven years after the launch of the first TS42 - and some twenty units sold - Marsaudon Composites reworked the deck layout, the general design of the coachroof and the interior, to bring us the ORC 42 (the TSs having since become ORCs). The uncluttered styling of the interior, combined with meticulous ergonomics, in no way detracts from the cocooning feel much appreciated when blue water cruising. Builder: selection in progress Length: 42’10 (13.05 m) Beam: 24’4” (7.42 m) Light displacement: 14,110 lbs (6.4 t) Draft: 4’11” (1.5 m) Mainsail: 705 sq ft (65.5 m²) Solent: 378 sq ft (35.1 m²) Engines: 2 x 29 HP

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