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First sail on the JY15
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- Start date Aug 14, 2005
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What about a 170 ? The 146 was the first Hunter I have ever seen and she really caught my attention with the open transon and sleek lines but when I learned that the 146 had a BIG BROTHER, 170, WOW ! that did it for me, I have really enjoyed owning my first sail boat and there isnt a day that goes by that I don't think about sailing and how soon I can get her back in the water. I try to sail every other weekend, the off weekends are for the home details that get in the way of me sailing !I can't retire soon enough, imagine going sailing when ever you want !Glenn
146 vs 170 etc. Glenn,If you extend your logic, the 170 has a "big brother"also; the 216, which I've already owned.Very simply, I do not need the cockpit space and extra bulk of the 170 for just myself and my wife.So, if we can't make friends with our little hotrod JY15, I'll be trading her in on a 146.Bob
learned on a jy15 I learned how to sail on JY15's through a local sailing club. You are right it is a very lively and responsive boat but not very comfortable and capsizes fairly easily (but is also very easy to right). I now own a 170 which I leave at a lake about 5 hours away, so often continue to go to the local club to sail the JY's to get my sailing fix when I can't get to my boat. The high freeboard, bench seats (get cushions) and the low profile centerboard trunk certainly make the 146 a more comfortable boat for daysailng. I have only sailed a 146 once, but enjoyed it. Good luck with your choice.
Lamar Sumerlin
Hunter H146 - Reported surface cracks Hi Bob,Over the past few months, there have been reports of surface cracks on some of the earlier model Hunter day sailers with ACP construction and, while I can't be positive, I think the H146 was mentioned. Please be aware that I have not investigated this any further than just reading about it but just wanted to know in case you had missed it while you have been away from the forum. Lamar
146 surface cracks Lamar,Thanks for the "heads up"!Back when I had the 216 and frequented these forums, I recall folks with the H170 mentioning some cracks developing around the centerboard trunk.I don't recall hearing anything about the 146, however.I had considered the lack of the fiberglass "spider-webbing" to be one of the strengths of this composite construction.I'd be sad to learn that there is a degenerative sort of malady for the plastic boats.No one has come forward as yet with a 146 to trade for the JY15. Of course, other than mentioning the possibility here, I've made no other effort to advertise my desiresShift gears: The reason for moving away from the larger boats is that the marina where we once kept the 216 rigged on the trailer is going condo. This is happening all over Florida.Access to the waterfront is rapidly becoming the realm of the "privileged class", and those who can exist under staggering debt loads.I have no where other than my side/front yard at the house where a larger boat can reside, and my wife still sticks out her lower lip when she looks at the steam-iron shaped patch of dead grass where the Potter was sitting.So, until something else develops in the area, I'm restricted to boats that can slip into the back yard behind the fence, out of sight.BTW, the thing I miss most about the 216 is it's ability to launch in VERY shallow water. Being able to leave the rudder completely out and just drive the boat out of the harbor under power made launch/retreival quite easy.The boat ramp at the marina/condo has been trashed by stinkpot operators "power loading" their boats, which has created a tall berm on the bottom just a few feet beyond the end of the concrete rampA guy who has a J22 and a Corsair 24 at the marina has the J22 up for sale because he can't get it in the water any more.The Sailtime time-share program on Hunter 33's and 36's has just come into our immediate area.It looked like a GREAT deal at first, until you realize that as a working couple, we would only have access to the boat about twice a month for half-day sessions during the weekends when we wanted to sail. We can rent a Hunter 27 locally for $200 or so for a full day when we want to, so there is no need for the $2500 up-front fee the Sailtime program demands.The program is good for retired people, or those whose work schedules are more flexible than that of a school teacher and a NASA-contractor radio tech!So, living within the limitations of a cruel reality, like everyone else, we sail what we can, when we can.Bob
Sad news It is sad to hear of yet another sailor being forced to make adjustments for power boats and the few who can afford a home on the water. More and more launches are catering to power boats, leaving us sailors fewer and fewer places to do what we enjoy so much. We too stepped down to a small boat because of slip costs, etc. and now find launching sites hard to come by unless one has a motor to get out of a channel or past an useless breaker wall. Let's all hope the high gas prices park the power boats for a good long time. I know there are a lot of them for sale where we live. I wish you all steady winds and blue skys.
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Hi all- My son (9) learned how to sail a sunfish this summer at camp and really wants to get into sailing. The nearby club has sunfish, jy15 and thistles. We get pretty good winds here (Upstate NY) but they are generally pretty light in the summer. I'm looking for a boat that would be good for learning on that fit the whole family once in a while. I have three boys (9, 7 and 4) and would guess that they will all want to have a chance to go out from time to time. Any opinions? Thanks, Mike
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Unless you need to car-top it, I would go with the JY15 for your circumstances. The JY can actually accommodate a good bunch of kids. Our kids used them at sailing camp, too, where they would typically have 2-4 kids on board, and sometimes an instructor. If you wanted to bump it up a bit, the Flying Scot is a good candidate. That's one the whole family can sail in, and bring along a nice picnic basket too.
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One-Design Class Type: Dinghy
Was this boat built to be sailed by youth or adults? Both
Approximately how many class members do you have? 75
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The JY15 is a great two person sloop rigged dinghy. Easy to rig, easy to handle, comfortable. Great for a lazy sail or some competitive racing. Designed by Rod Johnstone
Boats Produced: Around 3000
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Approximately how many boats are in the USA/North America? 3000
Where is your One-Design class typically sailed in the USA? List regions of the country:
Greatest concentration in Northeast. Also sailed in the Great Lakes area, Texas and California
Does this class have a spinnaker or gennaker? No
How many people sail as a crew including the helm? 2-4
Ideal combined weight of range of crew: 300
Boat Designed in Approximately 1989
Length (feet/inches): 15’
Weight of rigged boat without sails: 285
Draft: 3’ centerboard
Mast Height: 22’
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JY-15 Sailboat
Three forgotten one-design dinghy ghosts.
May 4, 2020 by Sail1Design Editor 1 Comment
Written by Mary Knauth
We are all familiar with the drill of the very dawn of sailing for young children. Parents eager to either make their kids fall in love with the sport – just as they did – or rather join the Green Fleet at their yacht club because “it’s the thing to do” when you’re a member. The little six-year old’s stand around awkwardly, some shy and intimidated and some overly eager and keen to show off their existing knowledge because they know the bow from the stern. They crowd in the instruction room with their PFD’s cinching up against their chins, sitting in front of the white board. Here, we will explore three one-class designs through a nostalgic journey of my later childhood growing up in Connecticut.
A nine foot chunky beast of a boat, with a mere 45 square foot sail area, and held together with green weathered brass cotter pins, this simple and easy dinghy is virtually indestructible. Each dinghy of the fleet is “adopted” by local yacht clubs or families; an annual endowment is donated to the Seaport for the upkeep and maintenance of the fleet. While monetary donations support the financial wing, it’s also very special for families who adopt a Dyer in memory of deceased loved ones. In essence, the fleet symbolizes a certain spirituality; #51 was adopted in 2010 and named Lissie, in my memory of my mother. For decades, our local sail loft, Farrar Sails – run by Kevin Farrar since 1986 – has been sewing the sails for the Seaport fleet and is still the sailmaker for the fleet today. During the summers, the Dyer Dhow fleet can be seen on the Mystic River. The colorful sails dot the river in the mornings and afternoons with sailors attending the Joseph Conrad summer sailing camp. Every October, the Mystic Seaport holds their annual Dyer Dow Derby: a super fun, semi competitive, regatta to celebrate the Dyer Dhow fleet and tradition because in New England, we are ALL about tradition! For more information, visit the Mystic Seaport Dyer Dhow Fleet Page .
Highlight of the week was always the Friday Inner Tube Triangle: an upwind triangle, and each of the marks was an inner tube, and each inner tube had either an instructor or sailor manning it. Not only was this super fun for the kids but also for the instructors, and it definitely helped with evening out the summer’s farmer tan! For more information, see the JY15 Class Association website .
One late summer day after sailing practice, I came home to find my family having a Saturday afternoon barbecue, and standing in the yard was Yankee. It was the most beautiful gift a young 16 old girl could ask for. I sailed it with my mother on the Mystic River, along the shore beside Mystic Seaport. She was striking and robust, a salt of her traditional past. It must be mentioned that Mystic is not a place where high performance, new hardware, and racing sails are appreciated; granted we still have Wednesday night regattas and die-hard foredeck sailors. In this area of the country, particularly Mystic, history and tradition of wooden boats are preached about and honored; the authentic art and technical skill that goes into designing them, building them, and maintaining them. We call it the “labor of love”. It’s challenging sailing an old wooden boat with brass hardware and blown out sails with no battens. Luxury items like aluminum vang packs won’t be found on those older rigs. But the rough saltiness from sailing these unique, traditional dinghys absolutely extends a certain skill for feeling the boat and how she reacts, feeling puffs and lulls before they hit, they require tenderness, respect, and love. In the 1960’s, the class association voted to allow fiberglass construction, providing a lightweight hull which is highly responsive and excels almost effortlessly in light air. They are still heavily raced today. For more information please visit the Blue Jay Class Association website .
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Since 1949, Mystic Seaport Museum has run the Joseph Conrad Summer Camp, ages 8 – 15 learn to sail in Dyer Dows during a week long overnight camp. Campers sleep on the historic square rigged Joseph Conrad, while sailing and living in the 18th century village of the Seaport. The Seaport is also home to the famous school ship Brilliant, a 62 foot wooden schooner designed by Sparkman & Stephens in 1932, it is the oldest sail education program in the country. https://www.mysticseaport.org/learn/sailing/
Farrar Sails is headed by Kevin Farrar who has a steeped footprint in one class design sailing. Kevin started making sails since 1971. Among many trophies, Kevin – along with crew – won the 2007 IOD Worlds in Nantucket. The loft uses an advanced CAD sail design process and autoCAD to design custom sails. The loft makes sails for several one class fleets, including 420’s. http://www.farrarsails.com
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JY15 Sailboat
JY understands the weekend warrior in you. You don’t have the time to tinker with a boat…or train 7 days a week. You want to launch your boat and go be a contender. With the JY15, the boat you buy is the boat you race. And because the JY15 is so fun and easy to sail, finding crew is a breeze.
Look around you right now…your crew could be your husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, children or grandchildren. And boy, will they love our crew friendly curves with gunwales designed for comfortable hiking.
With over 80 active fleets and more than 2000 JY15s nationwide, you’ll never have a problem finding someone to play with.
- Self bailing, ergo dynamic cockpit
- Kick up rudder and centerboard for easy beaching
- An extremely stable 275 lb. hull that allows for a greater range of crew weight
- Flared sides provide a comfortable hiking edge
- One Design specifications ensure that every boat is the same
- A planing hull that you’ll never outgrow
The JY15 sailboat is sold "ready to sail" but add-ons are available such as a trailer or dolly.
Dimensions:
- Length: 15'
- Beam: 5' 10"
- Main: 100 sq. ft.
- Jib: 35 sq. ft.
- Mast Height: 22′
Optional Add-ons:
- Trailer: $1695
- Dolly: $511
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20. Hunter 216 -. Aug 14, 2005. #1. Yesterday Carol and I took the JY15 out for a sail in the light air of the morning.u000bWe were pleased at the ease of rigging, and set out with both sails up.u000bOur points of reference were the H216 which we once owned, and the WW Potter 19 which we have up for sale in Orlandou000bThe JY moves in breeze so ...
7 posts · Joined 2005. #6 · Oct 25, 2013. I've sailed the JY15 for a couple of years in a frostbiting fleet. Anything above 15kn gets dicey with capsizes happening here and there. Gusts above 25kn usually dumps most of the fleet. That is with the prescribed crew of 2 of course, at 300lbs combined weight roughly.
607. 6. Erie, PA. Feb 14, 2019. #13. I owned a JY 15 in the 90's' during their peak of popularity. I sailed mostly with my wife and it was a really nice boat overall. Super simple one design so not much you could change so it came down to sailing. It was a very very comfy boat to sail with its rounded and contoured interior.
If the JY15 is the same as the JY14, but only a foot longer, i'd say it depends on what you are doing. The JY14, which is now made as the Hunter 140 has much more room, if you are taking more than one other person, the laser wouldn't be to comfy. personally i sail the 14s and 140 as well as lasers, the laser has a lot less to worry about, no ...
Learn how to rig and sail a JY-15, a more advanced and fun sailboat than the RS Quest. Watch the video to see the differences in rigging and on-water performance of the JY-15.
Learn how to sail the JY15, a fast and durable one-design dinghy, with tips on rigging, sail trim, and advanced techniques. This guide covers basic and advanced sailing, planing, spinnaker, and trapeze, with diagrams and examples.
The JY15 is a recreational, planing hull, sailing dinghy, built predominantly of Advanced Composite Process (ACP) by JY Sailboats and Hunter and later from fiberglass by Nickels and WindRider. It has a fractional sloop, a raked stem, a vertical transom, a transom-hung rudder controlled by a tiller with an extension and a folding centerboard.It displaces 275 lb (125 kg).
Rigging, boat-handling, etc... This summer I'm running a boathouse at a summer camp in NY. We will be running several JY15s, mostly in a recreational context (rather than racing). I have never sailed one of these before - however, I do have extensive experience with 420s and FJs, which appear very similar (one-designs).
JY 15 is a 4.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Rod Johnstone and built by Nickels Boat Works, Inc. and Hunter Marine starting in 1989. Learn about its dimensions, rig and sails, auxiliary power, accommodations, and calculations of speed, stability, and comfort.
JY 15 is a 15-foot fractional sloop designed by Rod Johnstone and built by JY Sailboats and Hunter Marine. Find sailboat specifications, calculations, links, and forum topics for JY 15 owners and enthusiasts.
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, repairs, ... The JY can actually accommodate a good bunch of kids. Our kids used them at sailing camp, too, where they would typically have 2-4 kids on board, and sometimes an ...
They don't react well to hull expansion, and cracks propagate quickly. The boats seem to flex more than similar fiberglass dingys too. The boats do crack, especially on the deck mold and highly stressed areas, and will always crack. You'd be much better served by finding a Vanguard 15, 420, or even an FJ. 3.
Learn about the JY15, a two person sloop rigged dinghy designed by Rod Johnstone Design Boats. Find out how to contact the class, join the association, and sail in different regions of the USA.
H-moon. ADMIN MOD. Tired of singlehanding my JY-15. As the title says, I've been sailing solo in a JY-15 most of the summer. Moreover I am beach launching and it's kind of a pain in the butt given how heavy the boat is and where I put in requires stepping the mast on the trailer while it's at the waters edge.
Take all the slack out of the vang, but put no tension on it. From this position in the cleat, make four marks on the tail of the vang. The first mark is 1" from the slack position followed by marks at 3 ½", 5 ½" and 8". Setting the Vang: 0-5 knots mark #1 6-10 knots mark #2 11-15 knots mark #3 16 + knots mark #4.
For more information, visit the Mystic Seaport Dyer Dhow Fleet Page. Second in line, is the indestructible, and extremely versatile, JY 15. Designed by Rod Johnstone (designer of the J Class) and first built by Hunter Marine in 1989, they were originally constructed out of APC (Advanced Composite Process). They continue to have over 80 fleets ...
Learn how to prepare and secure a JY-15 sailboat for sailing or storage. Follow the step-by-step instructions for rigging and unrigging, with tips and illustrations.
However, the JY 15 weighs 100 pounds more. Consequently, it is a slower boat by quite a bit, and is pretty hard to car-top without 3-4 strong people -- you need a trailer if you take it anywhere. However, it is a bit stiffer, though I think Vanguard may have resolved some of the earlier problems that plagued V-15 hulls numbered below 250 or so.
One Design specifications ensure that every boat is the same; A planing hull that you'll never outgrow; The JY15 sailboat is sold "ready to sail" but add-ons are available such as a trailer or dolly. Dimensions: Length: 15' Beam: 5' 10" Main: 100 sq. ft. Jib: 35 sq. ft. Mast Height: 22′ Optional Add-ons: Trailer: $1695; Dolly: $511
FWIW I had a chance to sail a JY15 again for the first time in about 15 years, just a few weeks back. The balance & pointing were fine, it was still a little doggy off wind (just as I remembered) and slipperier than a bar of soap inside (just as I remembered, although the owner of the boat I sailed had not taken the simple & inexpensive ...