Posting Rules | post new threads post replies post attachments edit your posts is are code is are are are | Similar Threads | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | | mvelimir | Construction, Maintenance & Refit | 7 | 23-03-2013 01:17 | | storyinframes | Monohull Sailboats | 4 | 02-02-2012 18:43 | | xdeeman | Atlantic & the Caribbean | 11 | 31-12-2011 14:13 | | Mike Vogdes | Monohull Sailboats | 7 | 16-12-2011 13:50 | | casey2101 | Multihull Sailboats | 14 | 29-07-2011 03:17 | Privacy Guaranteed - your email is never shared with anyone, opt out any time. Forums > Sailing > > GeneralChoice of boat: clansman 30 or cavalier 32. Hello all, I am looking between two of these boats. My plan is to cruise around the east coast and down to Tasmania every now and then, but mostly sailing around Lake Mac and the Hawkesbury. I am not in to racing and want enough room for my kids and I neither are over 10. I plan is to eventually live aboard (shhh...don't tell government). I would be single handed much of the time till my kids get older. The clansman is in much better shape but is a bit more. $12k more. The Cav32 could be had much lower than asking price as it looks like the engine is need of work (may need an overhaul) and the interior is in need of a refresh. The rigging on both are coming up for replacement in the next few years and the Cav needs anti fouling and a new coat of paint on her hull. The electronics on both are original and I would eventually replace them with modern equipment. Electrical is not a big deal for me as I have had to rewire military aircraft in the past. I am very handy with tools so not doubt I could handle 80% of what is required for both boats. The beam on the cav32 is almost a half a meter wider (which would help with room down below) but the draft is almost a foot more, Eventually I wouldn't mind getting some blue water miles under her. Any one have experience with either one of these and its sailing capabilities? I know the Cav can handle blue water and the Clansman has travlled between NSW and Tasmania a few times, so i believe these boats are both capable sailors. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers NSW, 1275 postsSelect to expand quote fretbrner said.. Hello all, I am looking between two of these boats. My plan is to cruise around the east coast and down to Tasmania every now and then, but mostly sailing around Lake Mac and the Hawkesbury. I am not in to racing and want enough room for my kids and I neither are over 10. I plan is to eventually live aboard (shhh...don't tell government). I would be single handed much of the time till my kids get older. The clansman is in much better shape but is a bit more. $12k more. The Cav32 could be had much lower than asking price as it looks like the engine is need of work (may need an overhaul) and the interior is in need of a refresh. The rigging on both are coming up for replacement in the next few years and the Cav needs anti fouling and a new coat of paint on her hull. The electronics on both are original and I would eventually replace them with modern equipment. Electrical is not a big deal for me as I have had to rewire military aircraft in the past. I am very handy with tools so not doubt I could handle 80% of what is required for both boats. The beam on the cav32 is almost a half a meter wider (which would help with room down below) but the draft is almost a foot more, Eventually I wouldn't mind getting some blue water miles under her. Any one have experience with either one of these and its sailing capabilities? I know the Cav can handle blue water and the Clansman has travlled between NSW and Tasmania a few times, so i believe these boats are both capable sailors. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers A good Clansman with new rigging would be worth about $18k. The Cav 32 is a lot more boat. Check the keel bolts. I believe the Cav32 has an encapsulated Keel, so no keel bolts to worry about. Though I could be wrong. NSW, 147 postsnz built cavalier 32`s are balsa sandwich hull construction as i understand it. worth looking in to condition of hull as balsa does not like moisture. it would be worth checking out "free range sailing" on youtube they sail a clansman around the top end VIC, 471 postshave a look at the H28 great cruiser and there a few about for sale NSW, 7573 postsNot a good comparison really. The Cavalier 32 is a much larger and modern boat compared to a Clansman. I would suggest spending some more time looking at other vessels in your price range and talking to owners of various boats to get some idea what you really need. Mate has a Cav 32 and has had several knockdowns on the way to Lord Howe but that does not mean the boat is not capable. Of those two choices I would take the Cav 32. Reality is I would be looking at something like this and living with the green Laminex! https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/brolga-33-unreserved-online-auction/212836 twodogs1969NSW, 1000 postsPersonally I would forget the clansman. Very old design not a lot of room. Also 12 grand is a fare bit both need similar work put the 12 into extra work or better equipment. Now in that 32- 35 ft mark there are a lot of boats for sail. A lot on here have blinkers and will only suggest the make of boat they have. But there are so many different boats for sail and they will give you a lot more room for the kids. They are only going to get older and require more room. Plus if you are going to live aboard things like showers become necessary. Keep looking. NSW, 283 postsHi Fretbro The Clansman has a reputation of being very wet offshore and I have seen really shocking osmosis on one. Might not be a problem on others, but worth a close check. For mine the Cav is one of the best boats of their size out there and apparently very capable in heavy weather. Kiwi built ones have a reputation for being well put together and extremely durable despite the balsa core. oldboyracerNSW, 292 postsMy mate has a cav 32 and i have a manitou32 this would be a similar comparison. ( dont start on my choice of boat lol) the cav is huge compared to mine, you can swing two cats in it. Boat speed surprisingly similar although the manitou is a stiff boat so i tend not to reef to often. The main diference we found was that i live ON mine, as in outside in the cockpit due to the small international volume. My mate lives IN his staying down below with more room. But we both agree my manitou was better as i have a bbq and coffee maker lol. But i do like the cav32 was just out of my price range at the time. Like everything a cheap boat might not be cheap,a new engine and rerigg and youve done 15 k. Probably better re-sale on the Cav32 also, & as mentioned above 12k will get a lot of improvements & maintenance done. MorningBirdNSW, 2662 postsI have raced on both in Sydney Harbour. The Clansman is solid, sails well but everybody gets soaked when the wind is above 12kts or so. It is small for its length. The Cav was roomy and sailed well. Ramona's comment about one getting knocked down is something I have heard happen to them as well. Even Kay Cottee in a Cav 37 got knocked down a few times in her round the world effort. My view is they are too tender for anything but coastal offshore work. Why not look at the S&S34 as well, or a Mottle 33. They can both go anywhere. If you are in Sydney I can take you for a sail on my S&S34. QLD, 87 postsCav 32/975 has a bolt on keel. They are fast, sail high to wind very well. I suspect that they suffer from the odd knockdown because they inspire confidence and skippers therefore may be late to reduce sail plan, which really requires people on deck to change down jibs. The main is comparatively small and well controlled with the traveller at the bridgedeck. Select to expand quote SailMark said.. Cav 32/975 has a bolt on keel. They are fast, sail high to wind very well. I suspect that they suffer from the odd knockdown because they inspire confidence and skippers therefore may be late to reduce sail plan, which really requires people on deck to change down jibs. The main is comparatively small and well controlled with the traveller at the bridgedeck. In my experience most blue water knock downs are wave induced with the wind contributing. I believe the Cavs lack inherent stability for those sort of conditions. They rely more on form stability than on the heavy keel. I believe a steep wave overwhelms them. OK Odd dimensions for form stability. A steep wave will always do it for you. I stand corrected. Again. Love to learn so much from this site. Select to expand quote SailMark said.. OK Odd dimensions for form stability. A steep wave will always do it for you. I stand corrected. Again. Love to learn so much from this site. I have surfed a Cav 975 on really steep short waves and never had an issue with stability, form or otherwise. At the time I admit that I thought a bit more rudder in the water might help. No experience with a Clansman at all. NSW, 3342 postsI don't think the Cav is short on inherent stability; in fact when new it was renowned as a superb high-wind half tonner. With a 50% ballast ratio and moderate beam (9ft 9in) compared to later IOR boats, it's very similar in style to the S&S 34 with a slightly wider stern which should give greater form stability. Personally I'd dislike the ones with the little wheel instead of a tiller. There's a huge number of the various tough old half tonners that have done lots of miles around our coasts and I don't think any of them have ever really got into trouble, apart from one in WA and one that had a shaft issue in NT. Both issues were 30 years ago. They are pretty much as tough as steel capped boots. The Clansman is basically in a different category of speed and size. I sailed the state champion Clansman for years as a kid. Very wet, quite small down below and rolly when pressed hard under kite. I'd take either across the Strait, no problems. 12330 postsQLD, 12330 postsPhoenixStar said.. This one sails like a dream, is set up for single handed with electric winches and needs no work. You can spend heaps on doubtfully maintained boats and still end up with a dog. $10000 disappears fast - one gearbox overhaul or water damage to a bulkhead or dodgy electrics will do it. https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/ranger-33.../211593 I think that's a gift but your link does not work for me for some reason. NSW, 1659 postsDoesn't work for me either Phoenix. PhoenixStarQLD, 477 postssamsturdy said.. Doesn't work for me either Phoenix. Try this one. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/ That add does not do her justice. No mention of the wireless remote anchor winch with rode counter, recon gear box, Polyflex coupling and stern gland, fully compliant 240 volt stuff, MPPT controller Hypalon dinghy. The list goes on and on. I'll have to throw some money at the Cabot 36 to get her near the same standard. In fact she may never get to be as well maintained. PhoenixStar said.. samsturdy said.. Doesn't work for me either Phoenix. Try this one. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/ That add does not do her justice. No mention of the wireless remote anchor winch with rode counter, recon gear box, Polyflex coupling and stern gland, fully compliant 240 volt stuff, MPPT controller Hypalon dinghy. The list goes on and on. I'll have to throw some money at the Cabot 36 to get her near the same standard. In fact she may never get to be as well maintained. Yep, that one worked Phoenix. Are we expecting a name change with the new boat, From Phoenix to.......... samsturdy said.. PhoenixStar said.. samsturdy said.. Doesn't work for me either Phoenix. Try this one. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/ That add does not do her justice. No mention of the wireless remote anchor winch with rode counter, recon gear box, Polyflex coupling and stern gland, fully compliant 240 volt stuff, MPPT controller Hypalon dinghy. The list goes on and on. I'll have to throw some money at the Cabot 36 to get her near the same standard. In fact she may never get to be as well maintained. Yep, that one worked Phoenix. Are we expecting a name change with the new boat, From Phoenix to.......... Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Besides, I might hate the Cabot and go back to the Ranger. I really liked that boat. If it had another 8 inches of beam ............... Hi guys I Sail a Cav32 in Newcastle. They are a great boat. Solid, stiff and dry. I love it. I singlehand mostly They have circumnavigated, raced the Sydney to Hobart and drifted around Pittwater. Sounds pretty good to me cheers NSW, 190 postsHave a look at brolga 33 jessie. Its well fitted and unbreakable. Google brolga 33 for sale "Choice of boat: Clansman 30 or Cavalier 32" started by fretbrnerSend message. Copyright © 1997-2024 Seabreeze.com.au - All Rights Reserved. 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Clansman 30. The Clansman 30 is a 30-foot class of narrow-beam full-keel yacht manufactured on the New South Wales Central Coast of Australia. Production ran from 1965 through 1985, with hull numbers from 1 to 108. ... It is an exceptional sea boat that has stood the test of time in performance in adverse conditions, with one of the class (hull ...
Clansman 30 is a 29′ 11″ / 9.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Bruce Fairlie and built by Fairlite Plastics/East Coast Yachts (AUSTRALIA) between 1966 and 1985. ... The higher a boat's D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive ...
Keel. Fin keel. The Clansman 30 is equipped with a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 1.35 - 1.45 meter (4.43 - 4.73 ft) dependent on the load.
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The Clansman 30 is a 30.0ft masthead sloop designed by Bruce Fairlie and built in fiberglass between 1966 and 1985. 105 units have been built. The Clansman 30 is a very heavy sailboat which is under powered. It is stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat.
30 ft clansman good honest sail boat, no rot, needs some work but liveable and useable as is. Brand new Betta 14 hp engine 6.5 hours only. Sails reasonable condition. I cannot finish work as i have major back problems. $12,000 with new engine or $4,000 without engine.
CLANSMAN 30 Specifications. Hull Type: Fin Keel Rigging Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 30.00 ft / 9.14 m LWL: 21.50 ft / 6.55 m S.A. (reported): 375.00 ft² / 34.84 m² Beam: 8.00 ft / 2.44 m Displacement: 9,020.00 lb / 4,091 kg Ballast: 3,360.00 lb / 1,524 kg Max Draft: 4.42 ft / 1.35 m Construction: FG solid hull/plywood deck First Built: 1966 Last Built: 1985 # Built: 105 ...
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Location: Australia. Posts: 34. Re: clansman 30. We fitted out a new Compass 29 in 1981 and cruised her for 2 1/2 years from Jervis Bay up the East Coast to Lizard Is and then onto PNG (Louisiades) & througout the Solomon Islands. Some people are surprised we went so far in such a small boat & we could have gone further but careers called us back.
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7571 posts. 14 Feb 2018 8:26AM. Not a good comparison really. The Cavalier 32 is a much larger and modern boat compared to a Clansman. I would suggest spending some more time looking at other vessels in your price range and talking to owners of various boats to get some idea what you really need.
AU $15,000 Reduced. The Clansman is an Australian Classic, built here on the Central Coast. It has a full keel and skeg hung rudder which make it an excellent cruising yacht with good performance. Its easy to sail, in fact I learned to sail on this yacht, all lines come back to the cock pit for ease for a single handed sailing.
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Our yacht, Mirrool, is a Clansman 30 GRP Sloop. She splashed off the Fairlite Plastics construction line in Gosford, New South Wales Australia, in 1969 . Her first owner, Charles Ure, entered her in the inaugural Trans-Tasman Solo Yacht Race. This contest starts in New Plymouth, New Zealand and ends in Mooloolaba, Australia, some 1300Nm distant.
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