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Manual Windlass- Thread starter Bob S
- Start date Oct 2, 2009
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Stu JacksonI tried, I tried On boats I've owned without windlasses I have rigged a short line with chain hook, like you'd use on an all chain rode for a snubber. I explained this almost exactly to hermit in the link posted earlier. Hermit ScottStu-I just want to see different options to find out what will work best for me. I did read your post though and I appriciate it. I will make a snubber and hook it up to the cleat in the bow locker. Hermit Scott said: -I just want to see different options to find out what will work best for me. ...and hook it up to the cleat in the bow locker. Click to expand Stu Jackson said: Thanks, hermit. A cleat IN the bow locker makes little sense, and could be dangerous with the door dropping on your arm. That's why they put cleats ON the deck. Usually the cleat inside the locker is only used to tie off the bitter end of the rode. In case you may have missed it, we've all been telling you to use something ON deck to snub: cleat, chain hook on a line, manual windlass - you name it. Where did anyone ever suggest using something IN the locker? Where in all the books or links or responses did anyone show you using something inside ? It would really help if you took a few pictures of what you have up at your bow, and posted them for us to help you better. Regarding that "hump" in the cover of MS's anchor locker, it comes with the boat. In fact, if you'd look at other boats, you'll find that most of the newer ones have that feature. It's useless for anything other than having the chain lead from the anchor shank into the locker. In almost every case you need to open the door to assure a fairlead of rode when deploying and for coiling up the rode when retrieving. Your older C30 may not have that feature. I have a dockmate with an '81 C30 and I don't recall whether or not he has that "hump" opening, but his anchor's shank goes way past the forward end of his anchor locker when it is sitting in his bow roller. What you'll need to do is determine how you want to arrange your anchor ocker door and your ground tackle. That's why a picture would help us immeasurably. Click to expand dreamsailingGreat info. Many good points in all this. I do have an issue with the fore deck picture. Was the boat at anchor and if so chaffing would seem a major problem. dreamsailing said: Many good points in all this. I do have an issue with the fore deck picture. Was the boat at anchor and if so chaffing would seem a major problem. Click to expand Ken TempelmeyerBob S said: Anyone have experience with manual windlasses? I believe one draw back is that they are slow but they are less expensive and easier to install. Just a thought. Any opinions would be welcome. Also, any advise on marking braided anchor line? I bought the anchor rode markers from SBO and ended up using them for my back up anchor with a 3 strand nylon rode. My primary anchor uses double braided nylon and I tried using white electrical tape every 30' but it didn't stand up to well. Thanks Bob Click to expand Use only in "special" condidtions? We use our Simpson Laurance 2-speed manual windless every time we weigh anchor, from start to finish. It's faster than the electric ones we've seen on high speed, and very powerful on low speed. I don't know if it comes that way, but our gypsy will take any size chain and rope. It has a kind of 4-way taper and you can even mix different size chains with no problem. By hand? I don't think so with a 65 lb. anchor and 130 ft. of heavy chain, hooked to a 24,000 lb boat. Maybe with a little boat... I much prefer a manual one over electric. A lot simplier and uses no battery power. Manual vs Electric Windless I’ve had my 37’ for 28 years. I first started with 5/8” 3 strand with 12’ chain. After 20 years of using plastic markers and grunt power to lift the 33lb Bruce I opted for an electric windless over a manual because we typically anchor in 30’ – 40’ depths with the rare 100’ evening anchorage. Pro, the electric provides a quick lift from deep water. The electric saved my aging shoulders. The electric allows my wife to quickly raise me up the mast using snatch blocks and a slightly longer halyard. Con, the motor quit once. This required a line with a rolling hitch on the chain run back to the primary winch as an alternate lift. This took a good 10 minutes in calm weather. A deck mounted chain stop saves having two lines run to the primary for this operation. When I had my chain re-plated recently the proprietor suggested marking the chain with colored nylon ties. I expected the ties to last one turn around the gypsy, but after 2 years they are, amazingly, still holding. Just to be safe I also marked them with stainless ties. Given galvanic corrosion, I am unsure if this was a good idea. For breaking an anchor from the bottom, remember: No anchor will hold with a 1:1 scope. Bringing the anchor chain/rode vertical and waiting a minute with tension on will generally allow the auxiliary motor to gently break the anchor free. Much of what you need as a windless comes from the type of area you sail and what your ground tackle is made up of. For us, I wouldnt think of using a manual unit, as I store two lockers with 400 feet of 5/16 ht. in each or a total of 800 feet of chain. the rocks of the north-west or coral reefs of the south pacific play hell with anything but chain. and I have droped anchor in 130 feet of water in the inland passage.. Also, contrary to popular belief, an electric windless is not designed to break an anchor lose from the bottom, and its the best way to burn one up. An electric unit is designed for "dead pull" and not for surge and uasally measured in weight... Ours has a dead pull of 1200 lbs. What I like best about our electric windless is it can be operated from the cockpit Barry NeedalmanOne way to mark chain is with plastic ties straps. Put the strap through a link, pull it tight, cut it short. Keep the lock bit on the outside of the link. Nylon ties are strong enought and flat enough to withstand the windless. jimford2158My plow anchor weighs about 40? pounds plus the chain and has an eyelet on it that I would assume is so a line can be tied to it and probably a float, so that the anchor could be pulled straight up if it was stuck. The bow would have to be approximately over the anchor for this to work. Does this sound correct, as I am just guessing? I only have a manual windlass but it is froze and is very difficult to turn. I have added penetrant but it is still hard to turn at this time. I was informed as to using the winch for hauling anchor but wasn't sure if that was a good idea. Thank you for the great info. This kinda continues at "hermit's hump" http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=112740 Seems like the missing factor is where and what kind of sailing you will do. Summers in NE or most anywhere where you probably won't go out in bad weather or stay on the hook would allow most of the ideas mentioned as options. If you plan major cruising it would be likely you will have heavier anchors and more chain. You also will be anchoring in situations where things get diceyer. Requiring anchor watches and retrieving draging anchors with high winds and waves etc. When I bought my boat the previous owner(who solo circumnavigated twice in this boat) and my sailing mentor both recommended I replace the manuel SL with a power windless. I didn't and my fears of being caught alone on a lee shore as the winds shifted were a part of my returning to New England from the Med. I had pulled myself off twice with a dragging anchor with my Manuel but if conditions had been slightly worse I would have been in trouble. Trouble that might have been mitigated by a power windless and a remote control. Sorry to ramble so long. Good luck on your decision. Pax Steve SV Gandalf gettintherewe have the S-L 555 tiger manual windlass. I thought for sure I would replace it, first thing, when we bought the boat. Tried it out and it is pretty easy. I have a 45lb Manson Supreme and 200' of 5/16" HT chain. I've handled 100' out on many occasions and it's not bad at all. I'm mid 50's and not exactly a gorilla. Brian la ButeI use black UV resistant zip ties at 30' intervals to mark my chain and rode: 1 zip, 2 zip, 3 zip, repeat - works for me I can see them, feel them and even hear them when they go over the chain gypsy. I use a lewmar 700 proseries. Easy Way To Mark Rode I've had difficulty in keeping those tape markers on the rode as the windlass would rip them off and at night they were hard to read, so when I got my new rode, I used paint. I laid out the rode on the dock in lengths of 50' going back and forth. I then measured out 25' and put a towel under it and marked the rode with the following schema: one strip for each 25' up to four strips, then changed color and started over again (each color was 100'). So the first 25' was one black strip, 50' was two black strips, 75' was three black strips, 125' was one yellow strip....275' was 3 red strips. easy to remember....black...starting out, yellow means I'm in the middle and red means I'm near the end. The paint is still on after 4 years of use. Materials was just 3 cans of spray paint from Home Depot and it took no time at all. - This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. 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Both come with benefits and liabilities. I think all manual windlasses are horizontal models, although some vertical electrics can be operated manually (at least in theory ). Agree with Sanders about all-chain if you're going with a windlass. Just operates easier, regardless of it being electric or manual.
Lofrans Royal Horizontal Manual Windlass - a simple and inexpensive way to add better anchor handling to any boat. Double-action operation makes bringing in the anchor rode a quick and easy job. Features: Manually operated (by included handle) windlass with separate rope capstan and chainwheel; Finished in polished anodized coating for added ...
Manual rope/chain windlass for boats from 26'- 39'. For some smaller vessels without sufficient electrical systems, a manual windlass makes sense. Royal is easy to install and features a smooth, double-action operation that makes anchoring a quick and simple task. Gipsy for chain: Ø 6-7-8-10 mm (1/4"-5/16"-3/8") Maximum pull: kg 200 ...
It is operated by hand, using a crank or handle, and is typically located on the foredeck of the boat. The manual windlass is a simple and reliable piece of equipment that has been used for centuries by sailors around the world. The basic operation of a manual anchor windlass is relatively straightforward.
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That is, a 33' boat with a 22lb. Delta anchor, 200' of 1/2" rope with 15' of 1/4" chain and a shackle (about 40lb.), with a total ground tackle weight of 62lb., would select a windlass with at least 248lb. of pull (62lb. of ground tackle, times four). If ground tackle is too heavy or close to the windlass's maximum pulling power, or if the ...
Demonstration of the Lofrans Royal Horizontal Manual windlass mounted on the foredeck of an Ericson 32-3 sailboat. Installation was modified by using a two ...
Introducing the Italwinch Giglio Manual Anchor Windlass, the perfect solution for boats ranging from 5 to 12 meters in length. Effortless Manual Operation: The Giglio offers a manual horizontal winching experience that allows for simultaneous rotation of the chain pulley and gear, making anchor handling a breeze.
DESCRIPTION. The Lofrans Royal LW 250, Horizontal Manual Anchor Windlass works great on smaller (26' - 35') boats that don't have electrical systems for a power anchor windlass. The Royal LW 250 Horizontal Windlass operates manually with an included handle and has separate rope capstan and chain-wheel. The Royal is easy to install and features ...
With a windlass, you can quickly and easily raise and lower your anchor, without the need for physical exertion. This is especially important in rough seas or strong currents, where a manual windlass can be difficult or even dangerous to use. Additionally, a windlass can help to ensure that your boat is securely anchored, reducing the risk of ...
Operating the Lofrans Royal manual windlass on a Pearson Triton sailboat. Please excuse the poor audio quality. My editing skills weren't up to dubbing over ...
Join Date: Sep 2020. Location: Mount Vernon, WA. Boat: Alajuela Crealock 37. Posts: 80. The best manual windlass question. So... ANYONE who has spent time with a manual windlass I got a question. Lets say that 5:1 scope gives you ~200 feet of rode in 40' of water. Lets say you have all chain 5/16".
Durability and Reliability: Marine-grade windlasses should be built to withstand harsh conditions and a lot of use. Manual anchor windlass: A manual anchor winch is a less expensive alternative for smaller boats or those with limited battery capacity. A manual windlass anchor winch makes it easier to haul in the anchor than doing it by hand.
4. Five Oceans Horizontal Anchor Windlass. Thanks to its pretty powerful 600W motor, this windlass can reach a maximum pulling power of 1200 lbs and a maximum line speed of 115 feet per minute. You can use this item with a range of rope types, namely three-strands, double - braided and eight-plate ones.
Jun 27, 2006. 107. Catalina 30 MKII ROOSEVELT AZ. Oct 2, 2009. #2. Simpson Windlass. Bob, I have a Simpson manual windlass on my Catalina 30 and am quite pleased with it. I have a 22lb Delta anchor on 45 ft of 5/16 chain.
7,134. CC 30 South Florida. May 19, 2016. #2. Did a quick search in a couple of chandleries and could not find a manual windlass. Checked some of the used components markets and the manual units for sale were old and probably lacking in replacement parts. To find a manual windlass you may have to look to European manufacturers.
Horizontal models are good for boats with small or unusually shaped chain lockers, usually needing a minimum fall of only 12". Very large yacht windlasses and most manual windlasses are also horizontal. Side-to-side alignment of horizontal windlasses is critical since they cannot accept rodes leading from off-center angles. Backing Plates
any suggestions on acquiring a manual windlass? Menu Menu. Search. Search titles only. By: Search Advanced search. Search titles only ... Mid-Size Boats. Status Not open for further replies. D. Doug Washburn. Jul 3, 2001 #1 my back has about had it with pulling the hook. any suggestions on acquiring a manual windlass? ...
Our Simpson-Lawrence 555 manual windlass has served our boat well for 46 years and has only required a new gypsy in that time. Hopefully it will last the life of the boat. Log in to leave a comment. Alastair March 12, 2023 At 6:23 pm. Similar, SL400, on my boat for 47 years, 24V, 60lb CQR, 10mm chain. ...
Join Date: Jul 2011. Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W. Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold. Posts: 823. Re: Simpson Lawrence Manual Windlass. two boats and probably 20 years ago we had a manual S-L windlass. It was so slow to raise chain we never used it and pulled it up by hand. The windlass didn't like being ignored and seized up in protest.
Together with the manual anchor windlass and 40 meters of chain, it adds quite a lot weight on the bow, which is not necessarily a very good thing in terms of sailing performance. However, in my view the benefits from an easy-to-use anchoring gear outweigh the marginal losses in the boat speed - especially if talking about pure cruising boats.
I installed a manual windlass on my Hunter 33.5 several years ago. I was told by the boat yard that I would probably replace it with an electric windlass in a short time because it would be easier to use at my age. I have never had any desire to replace it. It is easy to use and doesn't require great strength.
Gypsy. A small but very important part of choosing the right windlass is to ensure it will work with your anchor rode. The rotating part of the windlass is known as the gypsy and will be designed for an exact chain size. Many are capable of automatically handling a rope-chain rode.